Tuesday, January 19, 2010

Katie Says "Put A Sock In It": ("Relax" Advice Drives Infertiles Crazy)



This post was originally titled: "Frankie Says "Relax". I Reply (Snarkily) "I'm Trying to Relax But It's Not As Easy As It Looks and Relaxing Doesn't Solve All Infertility Problems Anyways So Keep Your Advice To Your Damn Self!"  But even for someone who loves long titles, that was still a bit much.  Hopefully you get my reference to the timeless 80's hit, and one of my childhood rock-out songs. 

Yes, this is yet another post by us Infertiles kindly requesting everyone on the planet to KEEP YOUR #@$(&* RELAXATION ADVICE TO YOURSELF!!! 

Ah hem.  HELLO Femara!  What I meant to say, is please refrain from suggesting we just "relax" and stop worrying.

As you probably know by now, my process is to get an idea and jot it down in the drafts.  I might work on a diatribe soapbox Femara related-confession topic for weeks, or I might get a wild hair and pound it out in a day.  Usually the best posts are ones that have sort of a rising tide, where other Infertiles are post thoughts on a similar subject.  Not two days after I put this post in my drafts did I come across Jen's post at After the Altar, which was great and literally took the words right out of my mouth.  Fortunately there are always more words in my mouth, so I will add my own two cents.  But please go check out Jen's post, it really sums our feelings up nicely.

Even this morning, the topic came up.  I hit Baby Making Machine's Tuesday morning webcast on Mom TV (if you are a mommy, or if you just like things that are awesome, check it out), because Jenn rocks and she is a super cute little preggo.  Another woman on the chat (helpfully, if not insensitively) instantly asked if I would like to know what worked for her.  My response:

"Of course, as long as it's not relax"

Guess what her suggestion was?  This is pretty anticlimactic.  "Throw away the calendar, drink a few margaritas, and forget about it!" 

Because I love Jenn and would not like to start a Femara-induced rage on her lovely webcast, I responded "That's great, I'm so glad that worked for you" Now can I have your address so that I can swing by and glue your car doors shut.  She only wanted to help, I get it.  But only Fertiles (and the people who don't know an Infertile) who conceive within, oh say, a year or two, really believe that this is a viable suggestion. 

I'm not discounting the power of stress-reduction and its positive correlation to fertility.  Quite the contrary.  I've become a true believer (due in no small part to Circle+Bloom's program, but that is a post coming soon!).  Month's where I can relax and be zen are the months I ovulate.  No amount of fertility drugs can force my body to get that Big O (not THAT Big O, the other Big O, although I'm a fan of the first one too. Sorry Dad) if I'm a bundle of nerves.  So my point here isn't that the advice isn't sound.

It's just that we've heard it.  About a million times.  From everyone.  Every last, stinking, person who even remotely knows we might be TTC (trying to conceive) whips out this advice like it's absolutely gold and we should name our future child after them because otherwise we would have never thought of it and we owe our fertility entirely to this very helpful and wise person.   

Here's why it burns me.  Relaxation is something more or less entirely within my control.  And in the five years I've been TTC (amidst four miscarriages), if you honestly truly believe that relaxation really is my problem, then I've completely ruined my life for something that I could have changed five years ago, or you're the most dense, insensitive person on the planet. 

Of course I don't think that about the individual person whose told me to "relax and it will happen", they are just trying to be helpful.  Because maybe, after FIVE FLIPPIN' YEARS, THOUSANDS IN FERTILITY TREATMENT, GOD KNOWS HOW MUCH CLOMID AND FEMARA, DOZENS OF ULTRASOUNDS, ACUPUNCTURE, CHIROPRACTOR, HERBAL REMEDIES, DIET, EXERCISE, AND EVER VOODOO DANCE I CAN FIND ON YOUTUBE... all I really needed to do is relax!  DUH! 

(I swear, I really am feeling better this month.  I like to blame Femara, but in reality I just think it's fun to write in all caps.  If you know me in real life, I am an expressive talker!)

This insults my intelligence.  EVERY Infertile, if they've been trying long enough, has gone the "relax and forget about it route" at some point.  And I know a LOT of women it's worked for.  My friend Natalie is due any minute, based on going that route, so I can attest that it does work.  But the longer you try, the more difficult it becomes to go down that route.  Not the relaxation part, that should always be part of your plan, but the "forget about it" part.  Especially if you are seeing a RE (Reproductive Endocrinologist), he/she may insist you NOT forget about it... like "baby dancing" (BD: the preferred term by the infertiles. I prefer "bone down") on the correct days, taking home ovulation predictors (OPKs), fertility drugs, "riding the stirrups" (those things you have to put your feet into when the Doc examines your cooter), etc. 

It's pretty hard to ignore all that stuff.  And furthermore, saying "just relax" I think ultimately minimizes the both the medical and emotional impact that someone with a serious condition experiences.  On top of my PCOS, which will not be cured by "forgetting about it", I have recurrent miscarriage.  When I told that to the woman on the chat room this morning, she said "Oh, I'm sorry".  She didn't know... but I think she should have taken the route of assuming that whomever she was speaking with (especially after it was identified that I had been TTC for five years), that she shouldn't be quick to offer advice without first asking where I was at and what my medical issues are.  I would have preferred not to be Debbie-Downer in Jenn's chat room by bringing up the miscarriage, but I also wanted the woman to think twice about being so nonchalant in her flippant recommendations. 

After all my incessant babbling, here's my bottom line.  Hopefully I can speak on behalf of all exasperated Infertiles everywhere when I say telling us to relax doesn't help.  It's making a hurtful assumption.  Its like telling someone who has cancer, "Well have you tried chemotherapy?" like its the easiest and most clear option that you must not have thought of because you still have cancer.

If you want to be helpful, be kind.  "I'm so sorry to hear that.  I know you'd make an excellent mother.  I'll keep you in my thoughts/prayers/Incan ritual sacrifice requests."  That's it.  If you're especially nosy, ask questions.  Have you tried acupuncture?  Have you seen a fertility specialist?  Don't presume that the person clearly must not have already done what you are suggesting because they aren't pregnant. 

Now if you're a fellow Infertile success story, you've got a little more ground here... but a fellow Infertile knows well enough to wait and be asked for what they did.  I've never heard Natalie say "Oh you should just do exactly what I did because I know it will work for you too", because Natalie understands that everyone is different and what worked for her won't work for someone else.  But when someone asks her, she's very generous with sharing her story and what worked for her.  I've appreciated that she tells it as her story.

Fortunately Jenn is another smart cookie, and when she saw my somewhat playful response of "...as long as it's not relax", she jumped to my rescue and said "Yeah even in my time trying that drove me crazy".  (Thanks Jenn!) 

Now, who wants to take bets on if I'll lose my shit completely next time someone says "just relax!"?  After five years, I can mostly smile and say "I'm so glad that's worked for YOU" and sometimes I'll slip in "...must be nice."  Other times, if the person is particularly flippant or insensitive, I'll try embarrass them a little by saying "Unfortunately relaxation doesn't fix four miscarriages and years of fertility treatment, but bless your heart for suggesting."  But one of these days, I swear... God give me patience...



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43 Folks Who Are Awesome:

Lee the Hot Flash Queen said...

I won't say relax...but some xanax is still nice every so often.

Future Mama said...

I want to giggle because you're hilarious but the last paragraph makes me want to give you a big hug!! Don't worry, I won't EVER tell you to relax! haha. People told me to relax BEFORE I was TTC. And any and every tweet or post about TTC had at least one response about relaxing! I CAN'T IMAGINING hearing that for 5 years... I would have already lost my poop... seriously!! :) But maybe I'm not as nice as you... Or maybe it's good you haven't totally flipped out on them cause ya know.. jail and stuff.

Anyway, I love you Kate! Your child is gonna have one funny mom!

Michelle said...

I have to agree with Lee I love xan.ax in those really bad moments. Although I do not believe for a freakin second that it's going to help me get pregnant. I usually want to say "Really?, Is relaxing going to make my husband produce sperm?" (Evil Grin) That would really throw them off their Fertile high horses.
But I can't, so I just say Uh Hu.
On a side note, a Fertile friend of mine did not relax at all she flipped the F out every month and got pregnant twice in 8 months. So.. I say fuck relaxing.

Jen @ After The Alter said...

As you can see in my post I am already through with the relax comments! My mom is a huge culprit of this and she's like "well what do you want me to say?" I was like just say "I'm sure it's hard" and just listen to me! I can't imagine 5 years. I know I am not an infertile, and I know 5 months isn't long in the scheme of things...but to me it is...so even at this point relax is a very bad word in my book! lol I give you credit for not snapping someone's head off! lol

Busted Kate said...

Lee, way ahead of you ;-) Xanax + Margarita = Crazy Awesome Kate ;-)

Jenn, you rock! Don't think I haven't been tempted to flip out once or twice. Unfortunately GOING to jail (not of my own free will) would cause me to lose my jail clearance (which permits me to LEAVE the jail when I want), and I prefer to leave when I like (I work in the justice system). I really appreciate your sensitivity and thoughfulness, you really are a gem and I just adore ya! Rub the belly for me, darlin' :-)

Busted Kate said...

Jen, you don't have to apologize for being frustrated after only five months. Five months, five years, its all the same. It's eye-roll inducing at any point. You're right, just tell you mom you're cool on suggestions for now but you'll let her know when you run out of ideas. :-) Bless mothers, they only want to help. My mom is great and I know she wants to jump in and fix things, but restrains from advice and just asks lots of good questions... and then gives advice after she's got the information. It's quite impressive, really.

Michelle, I'm intriqued by Evil Sperm. I have these images in my head now of Dr. Evil sperm, and where the finger would go it's their little tails instead.

Chickie said...

Oh my, if I had a dime for every peson that told me to relax, I would be a millionaire!!!

I think I am going to blog about this and link to your post one day in the near future if that is ok with you!

If only it were that easy...

Here's to hoping that we all get our BFPs soon...

..Soo.See.. said...

Do you need some help glueing some car doors shut? ;) Seriously, the "relax" thing is like torture b/c when you hear it, you want to implode! I almost had a kiniption in the middle of the SATC movie when Charlotte said her Dr told her to relax, and then boom! it happened! (shaking head) I was in the middle of cycling on meds. I might've gone to jail too, if I would've had my attack IRL the way I imagined it play out in my head.

liberalgranolagirl said...

I am so with you on this one. I swear that I am gonna punch the next person that tells me to relax or forget about it and it will happen.

Chasing a Miracle said...

you said it sister!!!!!!
thank you for the giggle and the 'OMG yes' 'so true' that i just yelled through the office!!!
you have also just given me inspiration for my own blog post tonight! thank you...
Oh and Liberalgranolagirl... yes, and while your at it come down here and punch a few peps for me too!

Jas said...

I think everyone who deals with infertility and has a blog has written about this subject (me included). You can see my take on it here: http://www.thejassays.com/?p=943

The other thing that kills me (besides this subject) is when I have straight out TOLD people close to me "Please stop asking for updates. If there is a change, I promise I'll tell you right away, but in the meantime, I'm trying not to focus on our failures". And then they come back the next month with "Oh, I know you don't want to talk about it, but I just HAVE to ask, any progress?" WHAT?!

Kate said...

Oh yes...the infamous "just relax" BS. Anxiety does not cause infertility, infertility causes anxiety and stress. I could write a book of the things people have said to us. I too have PCOS and unfortunately clomid didn't work for us at all..not a follicle to be had. However, with my lovely PCOS ovaries, the injectables (follistm is what I took) made me produce eggs like a mad mother hen! We just had our egg retrieval for our first (and hopefully only) IVF cycle in December and had 28 eggs, and 21 fertilized! In feb we are transferring 2 little embryo's. We waited until feb because I hyperstimed like crazy and it was too dangerous to proceed. So I get it. I know how difficult this journey is. I am sorry about your losses as well. We lost our daughter last year due to premature labor at 24 weeks. Sometimes it never ends...so now we get all of the crude infertility comments AND lost baby comments. sigh...people are off the hook. Anyway...it's nice to "meet" you...from one PCOS'er to another...I totally understand! Hey when all else fails...Just relax!! ;-)

Nikus said...

I swear, when someone tells me to do this, it takes all my might not to pick up their hand and slap them with it!

I love the quote: "Its like telling someone who has cancer, "Well have you tried chemotherapy?" like its the easiest and most clear option that you must not have thought of because you still have cancer." I've often thought of relating cancer to infertility but got nervous, so thank you for paving the way!

Sarah and the Gentlemen said...

Yeah... I don't have any advice for you.

"bless your heart..." makes me smile and remember all the insults that can be covered with that phrase.

Jewls said...

People are dumb, the end.! :)

Laura said...

Amen! But if you do ever want to "relax" for the hell of relaxing (ie, from a long week...not from TTC), I'm always here for you and I always appreciate your expressive talking. :)

Nancy C said...

This has really given me more compassion and empathy for my friend, as she gears up to do IVF again. It's hard and just not fair. Thanks for giving me a list of things NOT to say, even if I "mean well."

Daffy said...

That Relax comment was always the kicker. Literally...I would rear back like a spooked horse and wallop a dumbass. I couldn't help it. We too tried for 5 years...'Just stop trying and it will happen'. Yeah sure thang bucko. A trip to vega a few shots and wham bam thankyoumam...NOT.

Honestly, our sex life is still suffering the effects of a five year on-demand just relax and have fun but you gotta do it on this day between these two hours and then hang by your ankles for at least 45 minutes afterwards crap.

Praying the Femara works

April said...

You go girl!

Laura said...

One more thing...I also hate it when people say "it will happen". Really?!? How do they know? My track record isn't so hot, so sometimes I'm not so sure that it will happen. I understand that they are trying to be positive, but I would prefer "I hope it happens" over "it will happen" any day.

Ashley said...

Omg so true! And you have such a great sense of humor about it too. I've even had my dear old grandpa to tell me to relax. It grossed me out more than anything. Hugs to you! You will be a wonderful mother. :)

Logical Libby said...

I found something even more annoying -- people telling you that you are going to get pregnant once you adopt. I almost punched my own father for that one.

Kat said...

Seriously, some of my friends need to read this.

Then they'd figure out why sometimes I roll my eyes at them.

Hurhur. :)

Mrs_Fad

adrienzgirl said...

Aw...I am praying for ya Kate!

Kimberly said...

I am "wordless". REally?! Can anyone even give advice on this? It must be frustrating. All I can tell you is I will say prayers for you. I wish I could give you a hug. *HUG*

Crossed Fingers said...

haha - ah yes. My DH hold me I needed to just relax because that's what worked for a co-workers wife. Bless their hearts. I'm not as far along as you are and haven't had the hurdles you have but it's frustrating for people to assume you must be doing something wrong because they got KU the first or second time.

Jessica said...

This is a great post!! Thank you for saying this...its all so true!!

JennyMac said...

Sending positive thoughts your way. :)

teamjinfred said...

I agree with someone who said above that the updates questions are just as bad as the relax ones! It's gotten to the point where I tell folks that "those who relaxed and got (and stayed) pregnant were not infertile. What's relaxing gonna do to fix the medical reason as to why we can't get pregnant?" usually shuts them up. I figure, they're trying to be helpful but don't have the experience to back it up (none of those telling me to relax are TTC or have kids) and they need a little more info to understand.

Corrie Howe said...

I don't know what to say. I am sorry to hear about your difficulty. I will keep you in my prayers. (I don't do sacrifices, but I laughed at the suggestion).

I am pleased that you are able to read and participate in blogs and webcasts with other mommies and soon to be mommies.

May I ask if adoption is an option for you? Or is that too hurtful?

waiting and wishing said...

Great post. Thanks for a good laugh, I needed it!

Kriste said...

I'll be thinking of you. Thanks for visting my blog and becoming a follower.

LaurenKauf said...

Hey Kate...why don't you relax a little!! My best friends-grandmothers-uncles-neighbors-counsins-wife gargled with dog urine, bathed in difficult to find, boiled dinosaur bone marrow, did shots of jack daniels, and just relaxed and got pregnant. ;)

Just kidding sister!!!! The FERTILES don't get it. Great Aunt Gertrude doesn't get it.

My idea of RELAXING is a Spa Retreat in Tahoe, or an hour massage by a guy that is tall, dark and handsome with a name like Gustavo, Not, not thinking about trying to fill the childless void in my life with a hundred cats, or Scientific Terminology "Intercourse", "semen" and me propping my ass up with pillows for at minimum of a half an hour after said "Intercourse"! UGH!!! When I AM relaxed we "BOINK" we do NOT have "Intercourse". Whoa....sorry for the rant, the JUST RELAX topic hits a nerve!!!

Tiffany said...

I love this post. You are so true, and it is so aggrivating!! I also hate the "forget about it, and it will happen" Forget about it? Ok lady, if you can forget when you're popping 13 pills a day, having hot flashes, taking your temp, putting stars on the day's your having sex....then your freakin amazing. Me, well I cannot forget.

bunny said...

WELL SAID. Does relaxing actually work for *anyone*, or is it just chance? Okay, if stress prevents ovulation in those with PCOS, then no stress might result in pregnancy, but it doesn't follow that relaxation is the key. Seems like not having PCOS is the solution. So you should TOTALLY do that.

Michelle said...

Oh my favorite..."Just relax". I most of the time smile and nod and want to say...Oh you are brilliant! What is your advise for how to fix why I have had 4 miscarriages because I MUST try that too!

kys said...

I'm sorry you hear this so much. I think people who haven't gone through this (I haven't) don't know what to say so they blabber the first thing that comes to their minds. I'm sure I've been guilty too. I'm sorry for that. :)

Teresha@Marlie and Me said...

love this post! it took us 6 months of ttc to get pregnant and I was beginning to fret when one friend started chirping that I should relax (actually her words were calm down). I stopped speaking to her for a couple of months...B!tch. anyways, just wanted to say I understand. when you do become a mommy, you are going to rock!

Erin said...

If I'd had a $1 for every time someone told me to "RELAX" while we were TTC, I'd probably be pretty freakin' rich. It really started to get under my own skin, even when my own mother was saying it to me. People who haven't been there just don't get it. And it's hard for us to hear and harder to explain it to them. They mean well and can't help it when they say insensitive shiggidy. Nonetheless, I can't tell you how many times I went home and cried after hearing that. As if my infertility was somehow locked beyond the doors of my ability to relax. ARGH!

Jennifer said...

Everyone loves to give advice but a lot of people just don't realize how insensitive their advice might be. Hopefully some of those people will read your post and be a bit more aware of it in the future.

Charla (SHar-la) said...

I'd never been to your blog but found it through a blog I read frequently, I Love You To Pieces. I was completely cracking up the entire way through your post. Not only are you witty, but your writing is just absolutely entertaining. This English teacher and avid reader says, "thank you!"

And you hit the nail on the head about the, "oh just relax and it will happen comment." Yowsers. If only. In the almost-four-years we've been trying, we've had two miscarriages and believe me have tried relaxing in every way possible, including the margarita-induced variety.

Willow said...

So true. I mean, we were pretty darn relaxed during that first year of trying, before we got smacked with the infertile label, back when we were 26 (me) and 29 (DH) and just enjoying all the sex and figuring it was bound to happen soon. So why no BFP then, hmm? Because relaxing is not the issue! Dh's low sperm count and my elevated FSH and endo are! And relaxing just ain't making those go away! (thankfully, varicocele surgery has finally upped DH's count, and acupuncture has been helping my FSH, and I just had a lap to scrape out some endo so maybe now if we just RELAX it'll all come together, right??) I do hate the "just relax" line because of the way it puts the blame on the infertile. As if we aren't wondering "why me?" and "what did I do wrong?" all the time anyway!

Mrs T said...

just linked to this post on my blog. and am now a follower. hope you stop by and comment.

I am an Infertile because of my own decision. I had my tubes tied. Regretted it and had them untied. Found out Dr had left a horrid infection in both tubes for the 3+ yrs they were tied and lost even more tube in surgery. Now I am 1.6 yrs "whole" and had 2 m/c and an ectopic at 6 wks in Feb.

I am so sick of "just relax"! Just one more "thing I do wrong" to add to my list starting with that ligation...